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  • #1422
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      Purest Green : Meta Mid-Range

    This deck is SOLID.

    Mono Coloured, ramp, mana interference, Threat heavy, and extremely reliable.

    I fully understand how wacky some of the card choices look.
    LOTS of these cards are unique, and a complete shock.
    Lots of anti Blue. Lots of Hide. Some Haste.
    Lots of big, cheap and thumpy.

    It works.

    Over 5 months, I have gone thru about 50 other cards, and these are the ones that stuck.

    The only deck I do not want to play against is Flash-Hulk.
    I have tried to include a long list of anti flash cards, but, they haven’t stuck yet.

    This deck doesn’t run out of puff, and swerves in some unexpected ways.

    DECK LIST
    8 Forest
    1 Dryad Arbor
    1 Windswept Heath
    1 Wooded Foothills
    1 Treetop Village
    1 Centaur Garden
    1 Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
    1 Pendelhaven
    1 Horizon Canopy
    1 Waterlogged Grove
    1 Nuturing Peatland
    1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
    1 City of Traitors
    1 Mutavault
    1 Mishra’s Factory
    1 Wasteland +
    1 Strip Mine +

    1 Green Sun’s Zenith +
    1 Sol Ring +++
    1 Umezawa’s Jitte +

    1 Birds of Paradise
    1 Elvish Mystic
    1 Fyndhorn Elves
    1 LLanowar Elves
    1 Noble Hierarch

    1 Paradise Druid
    1 Rattleclaw Mystic

    1 Yavimaya Dryad
    1 Jadelight Ranger

    1 Dryad Militant
    1 Pelt Collector
    1 Avatar of the Resolute
    1 Strangleroot Geist
    1 Talara’s Battalion
    1 Tarmogoyf
    1 Skylasher
    1 Sylvan Library
    1 Boon Satyr
    1 Prowling Serpopard
    1 Ramunap Excavator
    1 Great Sable Stag
    1 Steel Leaf Champion
    1 Vengevine
    1 Thrun, the Last Troll
    1 Shifting Ceratops
    1 Nullhide Ferox
    1 Wilt-Leaf Liege
    1 Garruk Wildspeaker
    1 Harmonize
    1 Titania, Protector of Argoth
    1 Whisperwood Elemental
    1 Nissa, Who Shakes the World
    1 Mistcutter Hydra

    SB: Grafdigger’s Cage
    SB: Reclamation Sage
    SB: Uktabi Orangutan
    SB: Collector Ouphe
    SB: Constant Mists
    SB: Wheel of Sun and Moon
    SB: Groundbreaker
    SB: Giant Solifuge
    SB: Hidden Gibbons
    SB: Guttural Response
    SB: Vexing Shusher
    SB: Carnage Tyrant
    SB: Choke
    SB: Tsunami
    SB: Walking Ballista

    #1425
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    Fast Green Sources
    8 Forest
    Windswept Heath
    Wooded Foothills
    Pendelhaven
    Centaur Garden
    Horizon Canopy
    Waterlogged Grove
    Nuturing Peatland

    Slow Green Sources
    Treetop Village
    Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
    Dryad Arbor

    Colourless support land
    Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx

    Accelerant
    City of Traitors
    Green Sun’s Zenith +
    Sol Ring +++

    Fast Manlands
    Mutavault
    Mishra’s Factory

    Land Interference
    Wasteland +
    Strip Mine +

    Ramp creatures – 1 Cost
    Birds of Paradise
    Elvish Mystic
    Fyndhorn Elves
    LLanowar Elves
    Noble Hierarch

    Ramp creatures – 2 Cost
    Paradise Druid
    Rattleclaw Mystic

    Ramp creatures – 3 Cost
    Yavimaya Dryad
    Jadelight Ranger

    Aggro/Interference creatures – 1 Cost
    Dryad Militant
    Pelt Collector

    Aggro creatures – 2 Cost
    Avatar of the Resolute
    Strangleroot Geist
    Talara’s Battalion
    Tarmogoyf
    Skylasher

    Aggro creatures – 3 Cost
    Boon Satyr – going Flash+Enchant does win games
    Prowling Serpopard – is a 4/3 for 3, and it can just win the game against Counterspells
    Great Sable Stag – is a complete surprise against a whole lot of decks. TNN does not understand, and Black Cant see it either
    Steel Leaf Champion – is turn 2 goodness

    Aggro creatures – 4 Cost
    Vengevine – On turn 2, or recurred, is a shock. As is just haste and kill the planeswalker
    Thrun, the Last Troll – Hidden Thump that can’t be countered
    Shifting Ceratops – Blue Nemesis
    Nullhide Ferox – Discard protection and a size 6 body
    Wilt-Leaf Liege – Discard protection and a Lord
    Garruk Wildspeaker – Mana and creatures

    Win Cards – 5 Cost
    Titania, Protector of Argoth – is a big dumb win condition. Sometimes she dies, and I should win when she doesn’t. She is a good reason to play another 1-2 fetchland or the Prismatic Vista.

    Whisperwood Elemental – is pretty similar, but more effective against board wipe

    Nissa, Who Shakes the World – is similar. And funny with Forests

    Other Stuff
    Sylvan Library – is often a draw 3 cards, and filter from then on. It is kind of a mana source since it will find extra land, but it can also get you dead if you are not careful.
    There are a couple of fetch landsand the GSZ to shuffle, but it is not trying to be long term. Hurry up and win

    Harmonize – is simple efficient card draw, and very unusual in Green.

    Ramunap Excavator – is a way to recur the Wasteland and Stripmine as a lock. Fetch land and Horizon Land are also just fine to recur. As is the Dryad Arbor as a permanent blocker when needed, at a pinch.

    Umezawa’s Jitte – is just really good a lot of the time, and worth sideboarding against some creatureless decks.

    Mistcutter Hydra – is AMAZING against a whole lot of the field. Planeswalkers hate it when you sail past the TNN and sack the Quarterback.

    Sideboard analysis
    SB: Grafdigger’s Cage
    SB: Reclamation Sage
    SB: Uktabi Orangutan
    SB: Collector Ouphe
    SB: Constant Mists
    SB: Wheel of Sun and Moon
    SB: Groundbreaker
    SB: Giant Solifuge
    SB: Hidden Gibbons
    SB: Guttural Response
    SB: Vexing Shusher
    SB: Carnage Tyrant
    SB: Choke
    SB: Tsunami
    SB: Walking Ballista

    #1426
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    Not being able to edit these posts is really frustrating. . .
    Hmmmm.
    .
    Wonder why I can edit this one. ?

    Does clicking off ‘Keep a log of this edit’ stop it being editable?

    Nope.

    Hey admin?
    Can you make it so I can edit the first 2 posts?

    • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 6 days ago by Avatar Magic Geek.
    • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 6 days ago by Avatar Magic Geek.
    #1429
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    Magic Geek
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    Looks like it is time restricted. . . . Yuck !

    I would like to go back in and complete the first wave of descriptions.
    And add highliting
    And paragraphing
    And formatting
    Improve grammar & Layout

    And colours
    And sideboarding advice
    And cards that didnt make it
    And cards that did make it but got replaced

    Include design philosophy
    Add strengths / Weaknesses

    And most importantly, add Results . . . . . . But, I cant

    Oh well.
    Not being allowed to improve posts just because of some arbitrary restriction Seriously BLOWS

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    I am currently in the process of making a PRIMER on a different website
    A primer requires dozens of edits to make it look perfect
    .
    That just isnt possible here, with every post being a first draft

    #1430
    Sarven McLinton
    Sarven McLinton
    Keymaster

    Hi there! You can edit earlier posts but you need to be an admin (Keymaster) to do so. I assume the system is in place to ensure people can’t wreak havoc on eachother’s posts. You can request to become a Keymaster by perhaps posting in the facebook group and Shane (the site owner) will make that call. One hack is for you you post the final version of the primer exactly as you want it to appear in the OP and then I can copy pasta it into the first one for you.

    In terms of the deck, it looks sweet! Can’t go wrong with the green ramp shell, it’s always solid. According to the definitions of the three threads the configuration may not fit ‘Established’, but if you have some Top 8’s in local events it does still fit (I assume these are the Results you want to add too, which is great!). Otherwise I’ll move it to Developing until people start to pick up the deck too. Cheers, S.

    I manage Adelaide Eternal, a group running monthly tournaments in SA for Vintage, Highlander, and Legacy. We also commentate feature matches which are uploaded to our YouTube channel every month. Visit: www.youtube.com/adelaideeternal

    #1434
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    “the system is in place to ensure people can’t wreak havoc on eachother’s posts.”
    Look, that is just dumb.

    NOWHERE can a standard user ‘Wreak Havoc’ on someone elses’ post.
    EVERYWHERE they can modify their own words.

    I am trying to change (and improve) my own words, not someone elses’.

    As example, look at facebook.
    I can change MY words, not someone elses’.

    And yes.
    I have won two small tournaments at the Maze of Fitzroy .
    I went 3-1 at the Highlander at the Mythic C back a couple of months ago. (4 opponents were playing Kess Pile)
    .
    My last 4 rounds have been at tournaments that failed to fire.
    I won all four.
    .
    I have done poorly in exactly one tournament that I can remember 1-4 at Masters at Dandenong NLG, and sadly that was the only one that mattered.
    Close, close, close, and a complete blowout to f’kn Flash.
    About half the rounds I lose are to Flash Hulk
    Just dunno what to do about it.
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    The deck is Established, not Developing.
    The deck has developed. It has morphed, and improved.
    I am unsure what I would change about it.

    If the requirement to be in Established is that other people are playing it, well, that seems unlikely.
    This is a GREEN deck. People do not play them, because they suck.

    Having to physically stop people because I have counter-spelled with a Guttural Response is normal.
    As is explaining ‘Protection from Blue’

    I mean, Look at the decks in these forums.
    Purest Green aint like any of them. The majority of my cards are not in any of the other decks here.
    The only kinda green decks are Elves, and that is a combo deck based on casting Craterhoof.

    This deck gets insulted and laughed at.
    And it wins.

    Last night I beat W/B good stuff, U/R restrictions, and Rainbow Cheaty Monster
    Wheel of the Sun & Moon & Graf-diggers cage actually won games.

    The most effective card was the Dryad Arbor.
    Titania with Constant Mists, works.
    Talara’s Battalion on turn 2. (& Steel Leaf Champion)

    He went first with a Delver, Turn 2 he hit for 3, Turn 3 I cast Skylasher, Block
    He casts burnwipe, I cast Choke
    Counterspells do not work on most of my creatures

    Go Ahead, Toxic Deluge a Nullhide Ferrox
    OK fine, I lose to a turn 1 Griselbrand, Turn 2 Iona

    This deck isnt really a ‘Ramp’ deck at all.
    That perhaps is the example of why it isnt developing, but developed.
    I do not need all those card I was playing when it was a ‘Ramp’ deck, so they have mostly gone. No Genesis Hydra, Primeavel Titan, Wasp, Primalcrux, Wolfbriar Elemental. . . nuthin’
    I mean, the Carnage Tyrant is in the board.
    All the cards I am playing are so effective I just do not need the ramp spells. Originally, when I was developing it, I was playing 3 ramp spells that cost 3 and got 2 Forests. But, I just do not need them, or the thumpers that needed that mana. Everything is cheaper, and often more effective. Things like Yavimaya Dryad & Jadelight Ranger do the same job, and also kill people. (Forest walk is surprisingly effective, sometimes).

    And Reliably does not need to mulligan. It is a Mono Coloured deck with a heap of Mana dorks, and cheap effective creatures.
    It is VERY reliable.
    Everyone elses deck may be able to do better if they get the perfect draw, but this usually mounts an effective boardstate.
    They have to get a better one, and they REALLY do not have much time.
    .
    The sideboard is coming together too.
    Sideboarding was HARD for this, mostly in what to take out.
    I can be subbing in and out 9 or 10 cards, and they are different one too.

    The deck is strong, and strange.
    It feels finished. Maybe it could use another fetchland, but, mostly it seems done.

    #1435
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    Magic Geek
    Moderator

    Grrrr.
    I came back to edit, and the time has expired….

    Established Archetypes
    These established decks don’t necessarily need to be Tier 1.5, Tier 2, or even tiered at all, but they must have at least undergone a rigorous testing process showing they are competitive against a diverse meta. In the hands of a skilled pilot, these Established Archetypes have the ability to Top 8 a local event. If you’re wondering whether to post a list here, consider whether you’d recommend it as a valid archetype to the average player looking to get into Highlander in an unknown meta.

    This thing is at least Tier 1.5, and this is EXACTLY what an average player should go for, because it is WAY CHEAP.
    They wont, because it is green and filled with unique, weird (& cheap) cards, but they should.

    #1495
    Shane
    Shane
    Keymaster

    About a year ago our forum software was updated and they added a timer to limit how long users would have to edit their posts. It caps out after a few hours (just lifted the cap then) but I can’t uncap it further. It irritates me too but I’ve been hopeful for a fix for a while now – as you can imagine migrating to a new board when this one integrates quite well is a pain but it’s been on my to do list for a little while.

    I’m lifting your access so you can edit. If you want, I can also give you edit access on the front page to let you make your own spot for your deck. I’m Vladimir Svoboda in the Facebook group if you want to get in touch there.

    • This reply was modified 3 days, 12 hours ago by Shane Shane.
    #1497
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    Magic Geek
    Moderator

    Thank you

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